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2010 Alfa-Romeo Brera
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3.2 Mondial
Like the new 328 GTB, the Mondial's engine grew in both bore and stroke to 3.2 L (3185 cc) for 1985. Output was now 270 hp (201 kW), and the car's weight distribution was changed enough for the car to classify as a true mid-engine design. Styling was refreshed with painted bumpers and new wheels. The 3.2 also boasted interior updates and later cars sported anti-lock brakes (1987 onwards). Fuel injection remained the primarily mechanical Bosch K-Jetronic (CIS) with an o2 sensor in the exhaust providing feedback for mixture trimming. Ignition system was Marelli Microplex, with electronic advance control and one distributor per bank of the V8. The 1988 Mondial 3.2 would be the final model year that retained the relatively low maintenance costs of the 308/328 drivetrain, allowing major service items like timing belt and clutch replacement to be performed with the engine/transmission package still in the car.
Visai interesants konstruktors par 20 kE
Jebkurā gadījumā - manā bērnībā (bez F40, kas man bija pielīmēts pie sienas kā plakāts) - tieši šis bija tas auto, ar ko man asociējās vārds Ferrari
jā - biš smukāks 87. gada Mondial
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Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:41 pm |
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smic
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2010 Alfa-Romeo Brera
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Lietotāju atsauksmes
Citāts:1990 Ferrari Mondial t review from North America
"A fun-to-drive, maintenance and reliability nightmare"
What things have gone wrong with the car?
Power window (driver side) failed.
Power side mirror (left) failed.
Coolant hose in the engine ruptured.
Computer chip failed and shutdown the engine.
Motorized seat belts failed.
Thermostat failed.
Clock failed.
Fuse box failed.
Exterior black trim fades badly.
Windshield trim de-laminates quickly.
Original paint is thin in places.
30,000 mile service costs $10,000.
General comments?
Look folks, this car is not for the faint of heart or the light-of-pocketbook. It costs a small mint to keep running. The cabriolet ragtop on it takes 10 minutes to put up or down (yes, it's manual), the car fishtails around turns, handles abysmally on wet roads, only does 0 to 60mph in about 6.6 seconds, and is not reliable enough for road trips of over an hour or two.
I've spent about $17,000 on maintenance in the three years since I've bought it. It's now 12 years old.
That said, one does not buy this car for reliability or financial reasons. The reason to buy this car, if you can afford it, is that it's rare (only 1000 Mondial t's were made worldwide), it's a Ferrari, it looks beautiful with the top down and the engine makes beautiful noises.
Driving down the highway in Chicago on a sunny day, I get stares and thumbs up signs from significant numbers of other drivers. This does not happen to Porsche owners, suffice it to say.
Vienk noskatījos Klarksona Supercar Showdown un biš uz sentimentu parāva
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Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:04 pm |
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smic
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Citāts:1984 Ferrari Mondial Quattrovalvole Coupe review from North America
"Incredible car for the money"
What things have gone wrong with the car?
I got this car from the original owner. The car has driven flawlessly so far. I sent it to the shop for its 60k mile service and had the heads adjusted, plus the timing chain and all the usual things that are done with a major service.
The cost of the service was only 2995.00 where everyone gets these 10,000.00 service bills are probably from cars that were not taken care of. If it is properly taken care of you can get 200k out of a Ferrari, well at least that is what the guy at the Ferrari shop said. He is from Italy and worked for them for 20 years before coming to America. His 308 has over 250k miles on it. His odometer is in KM’s because he bought it in Europe. But the odometer translates to roughly 250,000 miles. Granted he is a mechanic and can do the work himself. But he claims that other than taking care of it and a recent engine rebuild it is perfect.
General comments?
Now for the details that some people leave out. The car sounds incredible. You do not know how thrilling it is to be driving 80mph and step on the gas and here the whine from a screaming Ferrari engine as it accelerates to 125mph. Top speed is around 150mph. Mine is the European edition. Not the modified US plus I have added several performance options to it.
The zero to 60 end is on the slow side by today’s standards. But you can get modification chips and buy a few items to get you in the 0-60 mph in around 6.2 seconds.
The Ferrari has a wide turning radius, but handling is superb. The rack and pinion steering is great. And the brakes are huge and vented and can stop on a dime. Some idiot ran out in front of me and I had to put them to the test one day. I stopped with plenty of distance between us. This happened to me in a Mustang with disastrous results. That was my only accident and I will never buy a Ford again. Not due to the accident I just think they are not very well built cars.
One draw back if you are a big guy. Which I am not. I am 5 foot 9 and 160 pounds, is getting in and out of the car. This car is very low as all Ferrari’s are. So when you get in and out it becomes a small chore. If you are over 6 feet and weigh 225+ You may want to look elsewhere. My buddy hates getting in and out.
You can safely use it as a daily driver. You see all these vehicles with 7500 miles and under 15k, and it seems such a waste for such a fine machine as a Ferrari. These were made to be driven. They are not made to sit in a garage and collect dust. If I had the choice between a higher mileage, well taken care of Ferrari and a low mileage neglected one. I would take the higher mileage in an instant.
Instrumentation is good. Except it is hard to see the small clock while you are driving. But all other gauges are clearly visible. The AC works pretty well. It does not match my BMW, but it does a good job of cooling down the car.
The windows go up very slowly. This is not a problem with your car it is inherent in all Mondials, that I know of.
The glove compartment is tiny. But who stores a ton of things in their Ferrari anyways? The backseats are adequate for children. It fits my 13 year old and my 7 year old just fine. Adults can squeeze back there, but not too comfortably. My cat fits back there fine and he has plenty of room to look for other feline cuties.
The gear shift sometimes sticks a little. You have to rev the engine to get the car into gear from time to time. Not very often though. I took it to the shop because I thought there was a clutch problem and the mechanic said it is just a characteristic of the Mondial. I guess he was right, because it still drives great even though it happens every now and then.
The controls are nicely located within reaching distance of the driver everything is to the right of the driver below the gear shifter.
Emergency brake is to the left of the driver located next to the seat.
Getting gas for it is fairly easy. Push the gas button the door opens up. It is very easy to fuel it with the location of the gas port.
Checking the oil is very easy. You have to reach to the back of the engine, but the oil stick has very visible markings.
Sitting in traffic sucks with this car. It begs to be driven and it handles best at about 80mph.
You feel every bump in the road and train tracks are a nightmare. It does not damage the car it is just a shock to feel so much response in the steering wheel as you drive over them.
Cornering is a dream. You will love the feel of it as you go from corner to corner. The Ferrari lets you know that you are always the one in control. I hope this review has helped you in your quest for an affordable Ferrari.
I love this car and will probably not sell it. I may just hand it down to one of the kids and buy me a 360 when they drop down to a reasonable price.
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Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:06 pm |
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elbee
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sportsalfa.com forumaa jautaajums par 348 un atbilde, kuraa ir runa arii par Mondial
Citāts:The 348 is an odd car really, great on a track, not so great on the road. Yes, the 355 is far superior but the 348 was a transition car, nowhere near as 'pure' as the 328 and nowhere near as well resolved as the 355.
Personally I'm not a big fan, which is why I bought a 328GTS instead, okay it's not as fast but it was more fun to drive on public roads (when it wasn't in the garage).
Is it the worst modern Ferrari? No, that honor goes to the Mondial.
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Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:36 am |
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elbee
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Citāts:Despise the Modnial, one of the worst Fezzas you can waste your money on, I have never found them much fun to drive and they are so badly built it's embarrasing. Stretch to a 328GTS, or even a GTB, they're much more entertaining, but just as expensive to keep on the road.
Personally I think mimimum realistic buy-in to the Ferrari club these days is an F355, they are certainly cheap enough to buy and what you save by buying a 308/328/Mondial/348 up front you'll only end up spending in the first year or two anyway.
From experience, if you're going to buy a Ferrari, buy the best you can. In my mind, the F355 is by far and away the most usable and realistic cheap Ferrari available today - Go for it.
Citāts:Mondial 3.4 is not the same as the rest of the Mondials at all. Has a 348 motor, longitudinally rather than transversely mounted. Build on a par with a 348, and rear seats for the kids. Nice looking car too - much nicer than earlier Mondials.
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Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:40 am |
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elbee
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visas sarunas par Ferrari agri vai veelu beidzas ar 355. pat autozhurnaalisti kritizeejot visjaunaakos Ferari saliidzina tos ar 355. ja ir lieki 50k eur, tad nav ko daudz jaadomaa, graabj tik ciet!
a man iepatikaas tas Daft Punk Elektroma filmas Ferrari 412
re ku gabalinjsh. ja nav redzeets, vajag visu noluureet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prrrVAthA3k
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Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:57 am |
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Oga
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2004 Alfa-Romeo 156GTA
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Tas Ferrari gan ir izcili pretiigs bet 2 stigi ir ok
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Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:54 am |
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2005 Alfa-Romeo 156GTA
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F355 uber alles!
p.s. Paldies Smic par operaivitāti...
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:27 pm |
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NIKSONS
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2012 Alfa-Romeo voyager
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Sestdien piebraukšu pie lielā brāļa, Maranello.
Ja kādam vajag kādu blingu - raxtiet te vai PM.
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:28 am |
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Oga
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2004 Alfa-Romeo 156GTA
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NIKSONS rakstīja:Sestdien piebraukšu pie lielā brāļa, Maranello.
Ja kādam vajag kādu blingu - raxtiet te vai PM.
Nebrauc. Tur nefiga nav. Par 20EUR redzēsi maziem puikām domātu mikroizstādīti. Labāk dodies uz Arese. 3 stāvi + formulas un tas viss bez maksas
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:41 pm |
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NIKSONS
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2012 Alfa-Romeo voyager
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:51 pm |
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elbee
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man a tur patika, bet neko nevajag
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:02 pm |
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